tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23768378541009405272024-03-20T23:19:39.496-07:00Lazy Walkerlazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-12686475993848998372014-10-10T13:09:00.002-07:002014-10-10T13:09:17.259-07:00<h3>
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Hello folks, just to let you know I've just finished the above so hope you have a read and enjoy.</div>
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there's also a very brief page for my last two WHW's from sept 2013 and April 2014.</div>
lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-20354633380156065312013-08-27T13:19:00.000-07:002013-08-27T13:19:03.546-07:00A great causeHi all, forgot to mention, this time i'm doing the walk for charity, specifically Alzheimers Society in support of my gran who has the condition, please spare a penny if you can, thank you <a href="http://www.justgiving.com/colin-warner1">http://www.justgiving.com/colin-warner1</a> or you can txt WHWA68 £? to 70070, don't forget to add gift aid at no extra cost, again many thankslazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-80800694936218413522013-08-27T10:18:00.001-07:002013-08-27T10:18:40.154-07:00WHW Again!Hi all, well, less than two weeks until I'm off doing the WHW again. this time Garth's missus, Tash is coming as well. Finishing it last year we had more or less decided we had to come back this year and do it all again. This time NOT missing out Conic Hill and Not taking the Road option at the end which shaved 3 miles off the finish. No, it's the official route all the way this time. Another learning curve means we're B&Bing and hostelling all the way so not going to be carrying tent etc, so daybags all the way. I'll be leaving the gaiters behind as well, having bought a slightly longer pair of Craghoppers Steall waterproof's, hopefully they'll keep my feet dry this time.<br />
I've finished the GGW blog, so hope you enjoy it, will be blogging the WHW when I get back so stay tuned!lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-67806798777439127852013-05-09T13:47:00.001-07:002013-05-09T13:47:19.553-07:00Finally finished the WHW blog!!Hi everyone, apologies for the tardiness of finishing the WHW blog. Having finished doing the GGW last weekend and wanting to get on with writing that up ( I've started already) I've finally got of my arse and finished it. See, there's a good reason I've called myself Lazy Walker!!lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-55375968052925142692013-05-07T11:59:00.002-07:002013-05-07T11:59:58.212-07:00Name ChangeYou may have noticed I have now changed my name from Ambitious Walker To Be to just Lazy<br />
Walker.<br />
I felt seeing as I've now done WHW and GGW I could dispense with the To Be bit, plus I think I've covered the ambitious bit as well, so just lazy walker from now on. I can't see me losing that monicker though.<br />
Anyway I'm getting started on the GGW page so please be patient, I never had enough wifi coverage to post on the go, so kept a short journal with key observations of the days walks, besides, I prefer to ruminate, re-editing all the time so would rather take my time and try to give a lively account of how it all went.lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-12355003099014628712013-05-06T12:33:00.002-07:002013-05-06T12:33:43.365-07:00GGW CompletedHi all, Well finished and home from the GGW , will be creating a page and writing up the whole story over the coming weeks, so please bear with me.lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-3278443686794089422013-04-25T09:41:00.004-07:002013-04-25T09:41:49.183-07:00Great Glen Way April-May 2013Hi everyone, well off tomorrow to start the GGW on Sunday, was hoping for good weather, or at least a tail wind ! Now it looks like rain all week and a head wind, yippee. Anyway will be finishing my WHW blog and getting GGW done when i get back, so again, please bear with me till then.lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-6089700520028841792012-08-30T13:00:00.001-07:002012-08-30T13:00:13.197-07:00Quick UpdateJust a very quick update to let you know what's happening for all you people who thought i'd given up on the idea!<br />
Well, after 8 weeks of intermittent training, 4ml, 5ml,6,7 and 9 mile walks, last four weeks with a backpack on, everything's booked and i leave from Manchester on sunday 2nd sept, this sunday! for Glasgow.<br />
Hotel's booked for Sunday night in Glasgow, Quick breakfast in the city then train to Milngavie to set off.<br />
Hotels booked in Fort William for the end on the sunday 9th, only a couple of hundred yards from end of Way. will be posting lots of stuff when i get back, gear reviews, loads of pics, hopefully an entertaining blog of the whole walk, so please bear with me and look out for updates.<br />
CANT WAIT!!!!!lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-80807157828292639162012-05-16T14:09:00.000-07:002012-05-16T14:09:56.664-07:00First steps<br />
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an experienced Long distance walker or just a keen rambler/ hiker, you’ll be quite
rightly saying to yourself “this guy hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing”. As I’ve
said I’ve done very little walking as an adult and disdain exercise, so why do I
think I’ll be able to do it?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">I’m not
totally stupid, I know I’ll have to do some training beforehand, not least with
walking with a pack over a decent distance. I’m planning on starting to walk to
work when summer finally comes this year. There’s no excuse, it’s only 2 mile
and I do have a dog that comes to work with me. Of course I walk Monty but not over great distances which is what i need to work up to. As soon as I decide on which
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">So, the plan
is to train this summer, then September time the West Highland Way beckons. If
you want to walk then I can’t think of a better country to do it in. I’ve
camped all over Scotland, the West Coast in particular. These past couple of
years spent researching Lejog has coincided with an urge to walk the WHW. It’s
a walk I can fit into a week which is the most I could take off work in one go
at the moment The A82 to Glasgow to Fort William mirror’s the walk in a lot of
places and has the best scenery I’ve seen in Britain. Passing Loch Tulla and
ascending over Rannoch Moor with its myriad of small loch’s magical, then
descending into Glen Coe, Buachaille etive mor awaits.1022m tall, a giant
monolith, dark grey in colour, brooding in mood, it seems to belong more to a
Lord Of The Rings saga than the real world.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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order I know. 95 miles in a week. I’ll
be camping with maybe 1 night in a B&B or hotel midway through. I’ve
purposely been telling everyone I know I’m doing it in September so I can’t
back out now and don’t want to either, i can’t wait actually.<o:p></o:p></span></div>lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0United Kingdom55.378051 -3.43597336.2876105 -43.8656605 74.4684915 36.9937145tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376837854100940527.post-1766421918623982772012-05-05T13:59:00.000-07:002012-05-06T04:15:02.189-07:00Beginnings<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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crazy, ok maybe not totally crazy, but just a bit. I mean, at heart I’m lazy. I
can lie in bed at weekend till late afternoon with no effort at all. And I’m a
telly addict. I can sit in front of the goggle box all day, again without any
effort. It’s easy, just sit and stare. Not that I watch mindless, lowest common
denominator fodder. I take that back, I do watch crap, but in the happy
knowledge that it IS crap but easy viewing when my brain needs a rest. No, documentaries are my fix. History,
Science, Geography, anything that opens your eyes to the world out there. It’s
the same with reading. Ever since primary school, where I have vivid memories
of learning to read and write, I’ve been fascinated with books and words. I
don’t think there was ever a time as a kid when I didn’t have at least one book
in my pocket and another one on the go at home. Ok, we’re not talking literary
classics, Enid Blyton filled my shelves. The Famous Five, The Magic Faraway
Tree, as a child these were great rolling sagas, filled with exiting adventures
and magical possibilities. I mean who could not be enthralled by endless cakes
and lashings of ginger beer?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">I digress,
where was I? Oh that’s right, I’m crazy and I’m lazy. Now when I say lazy,
that’s a selective laziness depending on the situation. During the week I’m up
until after midnight most nights and awake by 5-6 o’clock, I go to work and
work hard, I always have. After years of having many different jobs, I’ve now
had the same job for 12 years and worked my way up from minimum wage factory
floor button presser to running the place. In the work environment I cannot
stand nor understand laziness, I just don’t get it. There are 24 hours in the
day, the average person spends 7-8 hours in bed, so around half your waking,
working lifetime is spent at work, so
working hard means the day goes quicker and to me, the satisfaction from doing
a good days graft means, whatever the job is, you feel like you’ve achieved something. But
outside of work I revert to my inherent bone idleness. Physical exercise as an
activity or as a means to an end holds no interest for me. Jobs at home get
left for mañana .I’m a game of two halves, a dichotomy, an oxymoron if you
like.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">So why, you
may ask, am I planning to walk from one end of the country to the other .To
answer that you must allow me to digress again. Cue the swirling clouds and
nostalgic music. As I child I don’t recall being a lazy person. At 9 or 10
years old I would run to my granny’s house which was around 7-8 miles away. For
my BREAKFAST! I’d get there and she would make homemade potato cakes with
lashings of real butter on.(See, that’s Enid Blyton’s influence coming
through).I got my first proper bike, a Dawes Lightning racer, blue and gold,
when I was 11 or 12, and from then till the age of 17 I lived on that bike. My
great friend from childhood Craig and I went everywhere. We’d cycle to
Clitheroe, around 25 miles away for a weekend camping. Or we would cycle to
Liverpool in the morning, have something to eat at the docks then cycle back to
Manchester, a round trip of about 75 miles. All the way down East Lancs Road,
which anyone who knows it will acknowledge as an extremely boring road. Just
one long gradual downhill, followed by an equally long up hill, repeated god
knows how many times. When we were 15 our bikes groaning under the weight of
all our camping gear, we spent two weeks camping on the Isle Of Man, cycling
all over the island it was one of the most pleasurable times of my childhood.
I’d spent what money I had by the fourth day, Craig was skint by the sixth. We
lived off mushrooms for breakfast/lunch, picked from the field next door. Tea
was freshly caught fish from a couple on the campsite who went sea fishing at
Peel on the west coast. Wrapped in tinfoil and put in the fire it was well
appreciated, and i don’t even like fish, even less so as a kid. Coming home all we had to eat was a tin of
sardines and a tin of sandwich spread. I
remember standing on a railway bridge at the top of one of those interminable
hills on the East Lancs eating those sardines out of the tin. Yum yum.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">Now when I
wasn’t on my bike racing around, I was walking. Walking, walking, walking. I’d
leave in the morning with a jam butty and a little flask of coffee and just
walk. Down the canal to Radcliffe, around the reservoir, in the fields and
woods, just out exploring, seeing what was out there. A favourite route was a
big triangular circuit which was up out of town, near enough to Heywood, then
through country lanes to Ashworth Valley reservoir, up to Turn village then
back down Walmersley Rd to Bury. Roughly 18 miles. Now this was when I was
around 12-13. On my own, down country lanes and on the moors. Looking back now,
at that age, madness. Although I know
statistically it’s no more dangerous now than it was then, the thought of
letting my kid do that at that age on their own now, well you wouldn’t
contemplate it would you?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"> And walking was always a solitary occupation
for me, unlike the bike. It was about taking your time , taking in the scenery,
finding ruins of old mills and houses and imagining what it was like to live
there then, in those times. I’ve always, when walking, looked at the lie of the
land and wondered what it was like before roads or even tracks were there, I do
the same on roads when I’m driving. When we started putting down train tracks,
major roads and later, motorways, I wonder how engineers decided where to
follow the contours, where to tunnel, where to span the valleys. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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with the reminiscing, well for now anyway. Back to the point of all this .I
don’t really remember when the idea of LEJOG first came to me, it seems like
it’s always been there, an attraction, a goal, but it was as a cycling
adventure that I always wanted to do it. As I’ve got older that has changed to
a compulsion to walk it. I’ve read and re-read countless blogs online over the last
couple of years which has only fired my desire to get out there and do it. I’d
encourage anyone contemplating the walk to save this website, </span><a href="http://www.hockeylejog.co.uk/Links.htm#Otherwebsites">http://www.hockeylejog.co.uk/Links.htm#Otherwebsites</a>
<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">in your favourites and get
reading. In the links Mark Moxon’s blog is undoubtedly a classic but make sure
you check out Daryl May’s as well. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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planning wise, I aim to take as easy a route as I can. Most LEJOGers tend to
use The Cotswold Way and The Pennine Way as part of the route which seems a bit
too perverse for me. Some stick to minor and not so minor roads which also
seems like a missed opportunity to me. My plan is to join the Severn Way and
then use that to link up with various canals, The Worcester and Staffordshire,
the Trent and Mersey, the Macclesfield, the Peak Forest and the Manchester Ship
Canal to, unsurprisingly Manchester. Now I know that I’ll miss out some great
countryside and I’m sure the Pennine Way has some highlights, plus I also in a
way feel like I’m cheating somehow by using canals all that way, but hang on,
I’m going to be walking, what, around 1000 miles, so I think I can forgive
myself! I don’t imagine I will stick exclusively to the canals, there will be
stretches where it makes more sense from a distance point of view to leave the
canal and uses minor roads/ rights of way. Besides, I like canals, there’s
plenty of history to explore and camping should be easier. Another reason for
missing the PW is that my route takes me to my hometown area where I hope to
walk a little bit of my childhood. From there I plan to link up with the
Thirlmere Way and the Lancaster canal which will take me to Kendal. From there,
an undecided route as yet, to Carlisle. Most walkers who find themselves in
Carlisle then seem to use a route which mirrors the A74, I’m trying to plan
something through Dumfries and Sanquhar then to the east of Kilmarnock to get
to Glasgow, then it’s the West Highland Way, the Great Glen Way and finally the
dreaded A9 to finish. Now I’ve lived at the top of the A9 just south of John
o’Groats and know the A9 like the back of my hand. Yes it’s going to be tough
going with the traffic and although it’s not as stunning as the west coast, the
scenery and the small coastal towns offer a different view of Scotland from the
usual tourist hotspots.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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subject of camping, it does seem the best way to go. From a financial and a
convenience viewpoint it makes sense. B&B’s have vastly improved in recent
years but with that, prices have also risen, you’d probably be looking at
anywhere from £25-£100 per night and until you actually used the B&B that
could be £25 well spent or £100 wasted. A few years ago on two trips to York,
one trip was spent in a £60 per night “hotel” which felt like God’s waiting
room, the other was in a £15 per night room above a pub on the river, which was
the best £15 ever spent, so price is no guarantee. Let’s say £50 average for roughly 10 weeks,
that’s £3500 for the trip. That also means a hell of a lot of planning
distances and being tied to arriving at a certain place every night to an
uncertain reception for a tired walker.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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using a B&B maybe once, even twice a week to have a good rest in a
hopefully comfy bed and a long soak in a bath but that will still leave me with
over £2500 saved which I can instead spend on top notch camping equipment and
the like. It should also cover most of my food costs.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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obviously involves carrying more weight, tent, sleeping mat, sleeping bag. I’d
take a camping stove whether I was camping or not so it boils down to those
three items, which, if I go lightweight I reckon I can get down to around 3kg.
1 ½ kg for the tent, 1kg sleeping bag and 1/2kg for a sleeping mat. Overall I’m
aiming for a maximum weight minus food of about 12-15kg. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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I plan on using paper maps, ordinance survey of course. Land ranger preferably,
plus dedicated maps for established routes. I already have a Harvey map for the
West Highland Way and am sure I can get something similar for the Great Glen
Way, the Severn Way and some of the canals. Of course paper maps are heavier in
total than some form of handheld GPS, but as I’m not planning on walking with
all the maps at once then something like a week’s worth of maps is not going to
weigh more than a GPS. As I’ll be camping for the vast majority of the walk a
GPS which will need charging every day is not really an option, plus I would
rather have a map in front of me with which I can use to look at a broader lie of
the land when route changes look more promising. I need to explore more the posting of maps
on-route to post offices or where possible, friends along the way, I don’t
really want to have to buy maps on the walk. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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involves some form of software and programming of route. There seems to be
various options but all sound a bit too complicated or expensive and most
people who use a handheld still have paper maps to back it up, so really it
seems pointless and unnecessary. Plus as I’ve already said I’d rather hold a
map in my hand which I plan on tracing my route on. I’ve worked out which Land
ranger’s I need and have collected some already.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">Well now I’m
not happy. After around 2 years of research into equipment, I’ve finally got of
my arse.... metaphorically at least and bought my first and most important
piece of kit I’ll need. I was resolved to having to spend around £3-400 on a
tent which would be light enough but of a quality which would stand up to
constant erection and derection? I really didn’t want to suffer with a 1 man
tent lack of room wise so have been trying to find a 2 man tent for around 1
1/2kg or 3lb. Suddenly on Wednesday night I found a tent I’ve never spotted
before. An Easton Kilo 2 man tent for less than 1Kg! And it has its own poles!
RRP is £450 but brand new from a cycle store in Cumbria at £195 delivered. Now
it says new but I’m pretty sure it’s going to be the 2011 model which may have
been sat on the shelf since. But hey, it is “new” and unused; it comes with a
warranty and is actually lighter than the 2012 model. So I took the plunge and
bought it on Wednesday night through EBay. Parcel tracking kept me up to date
on the whereabouts and delivery was expected today at work. I’ve been on
tenterhooks all day and waited until 5 o’clock but still no sign of it. I
checked my emails; there was one from the parcel company saying delivery had
been attempted. I rung up was put on hold for nearly 20 minutes before being
told the driver must have gone to the wrong address and it would be back out
for Tuesday delivery. Not a happy chappy. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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therefore. I’m talking of Lashings of ginger beer. Why was it always lashings
of ginger beer? Apparently ginger beer is made with a </span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">Ginger beer plant (GBP) which is not what is
usually considered a<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-origin: initial; text-align: -webkit-auto;" title="Plant"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; color: #0b0080; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">plant</span></a></span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;">, but a composite
organism consisting of a fungus, the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-origin: initial; text-align: -webkit-auto;" title="Yeast"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; color: #0b0080; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">yeast</span></a> </span><i><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharomyces_florentinus" title="Saccharomyces florentinus"><span style="color: #0b0080;">Saccharomyces
florentinus</span></a></span></i><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"> </span></span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">(formerly<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><i style="text-align: -webkit-auto;">Saccharomyces pyriformis</i><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;">), and the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterium" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-origin: initial; text-align: -webkit-auto;" title="Bacterium"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; color: #0b0080; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">bacterium</span></a></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"> </span></span></span><i style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" title="Lactobacillus"><span style="color: #0b0080;">Lactobacillus</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>hilgardii</span></i><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"> </span></span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">(formerly<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><i style="text-align: -webkit-auto;">Brevibacterium vermiforme</i><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;">),</span><sup id="cite_ref-4" style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger_beer#cite_note-4" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style="color: #0b0080;">[5]</span></a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger_beer#cite_note-RajBApte-5" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style="color: #0b0080;">[6]</span></a></sup><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"> </span>which form a symbiotic colony of
bacteria and yeast .<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"> Sorry, I copied all of that from Wiki, it
seemed easier. Basically it means that once you start making the stuff you can’t
stop it. That’s why all middle class kids in literary fiction were drinking the
stuff. Their parents couldn’t get it down their necks quick enough. Anything to
get rid of it. I will have to investigate this as I’m quite partial to a ginger
beer.<o:p></o:p></span></div>lazywalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785920245299775737noreply@blogger.com0